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Post Icon Posted: Feb 13th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

As I said in my other post, if I ever ate any oysters it would have been just a bite in a turkey stuffing and that, as a child. Fish and shellfish are something that have never appealed to me so would never knowingly eat them.

Are there any hidden sources I should know about?

What about pearls? I say this kind of jokingly but I do like them. Is it possible they could cause a skin reaction? I don't really wear them any more since my pearl ring was stolen. But I have seen some pearl earrings that I like.

Thanks!
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Post Icon Posted: Feb 13th, 2010 at 11:36 pm

How exactly do you know that you are allergic to them?

I mean, since you have no reaction history, apparently.



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Post Icon Posted: Feb 14th, 2010 at 01:31 am

Feb 13th, 2010 at 11:36 pm, CMdeux wrote:
How exactly do you know that you are allergic to them?

I mean, since you have no reaction history, apparently.





From the allergy test.

I now remember that I did eat Hum Bow in the past. Maybe three times. It contains Oyster Sauce which I presume contains oysters. Last time I had it was at least 25 years ago.
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Testing alone is not indicative of allergy.

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Post Icon Posted: Feb 14th, 2010 at 01:25 pm

Feb 14th, 2010 at 11:22 am, CMdeux wrote:
Testing alone is not indicative of allergy.



In our case it does seem to be!
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Post Icon Posted: Feb 14th, 2010 at 02:30 pm

Feb 14th, 2010 at 01:25 pm, Juliebove wrote:
Feb 14th, 2010 at 11:22 am, CMdeux wrote:
Testing alone is not indicative of allergy.



In our case it does seem to be!


Why? I mean-- based on what evidence?


Have you seen a board-certified allergist? Had any reactions-- ever?

Just to be clear here, this is NOT an IgE-mediated thing-- therefore whether or not it (tht is, an elevated IgG level) is even related to "allergy" in the first place is highly debatable.

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Post Icon Posted: Feb 14th, 2010 at 05:16 pm

Feb 14th, 2010 at 02:30 pm, CMdeux wrote:
Feb 14th, 2010 at 01:25 pm, Juliebove wrote:
Feb 14th, 2010 at 11:22 am, CMdeux wrote:
Testing alone is not indicative of allergy.



In our case it does seem to be!


Why? I mean-- based on what evidence?


Have you seen a board-certified allergist? Had any reactions-- ever?

Just to be clear here, this is NOT an IgE-mediated thing-- therefore whether or not it (tht is, an elevated IgG level) is even related to "allergy" in the first place is highly debatable.



Again, yes. And no, in my case it is not highly debatable. The allergist was told of the reactions we had and told us not to eat those foods.
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Post Icon Posted: Feb 14th, 2010 at 06:31 pm

Reactions to oysters?

What does your allergist think of the new diagnosis?




Some recent information regarding testing (and IgG values in general) to 'determine' what allergies a person has--

testing for FA in asymptomatic persons

Diagnosis of FA

IgG versus IgE testing in diagnoses

Relevance of IgG anti-food antibodies

Role of IgG antibodies in food allergy




Oysters are unrelated to bony fishes or to crustaceans. They are mollusks.

http://www.aaaai.org/professionals/ask-the-expert/view.asp?id=9243
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Post Icon Posted: Feb 14th, 2010 at 08:24 pm

Feb 14th, 2010 at 06:31 pm, CMdeux wrote:
Reactions to oysters?

What does your allergist think of the new diagnosis?




Some recent information regarding testing (and IgG values in general) to 'determine' what allergies a person has--

testing for FA in asymptomatic persons

Diagnosis of FA

IgG versus IgE testing in diagnoses

Relevance of IgG anti-food antibodies

Role of IgG antibodies in food allergy




Oysters are unrelated to bony fishes or to crustaceans. They are mollusks.

http://www.aaaai.org/professionals/ask-the-expert/view.asp?id=9243


Again... Why would I care? My allergist doesn't run my life. She did say to avoid the foods we were diagnosed with as IgG allergies. So why in the world would I pay her just to tell her of a new food?
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Post Icon Posted: Feb 14th, 2010 at 08:47 pm

I don't really understand this ige/igg stuff. (Sorry, never had rast testing done -- only skin prick tests and reactions.)

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jb, your testing was not done by an allergist? Smiley I'd be leery of results by anyone else. Especially someone that would be testing you for oysters with no history of reaction. With no specific reason to test for oysters, it doesn't make sense. (I'm kind of a visual person -- and I see this person picking words out of a hat....lets test for this and this and this.)

I previously tested positive for a large number of foods. I was having reactions daily, and it was almost easy to believe I was allergic to everything. In reality, I have only two food allergies.

Just wanting to point out -- there are false negatives. It happens.

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Does this (non-allergist) person that does the testing also offer a cure? Or sell something for treatment? Do they have any kind of certification/licence to do medical tests?
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Post Icon Posted: Feb 14th, 2010 at 09:31 pm

Feb 14th, 2010 at 08:47 pm, SilverLining wrote:
I don't really understand this ige/igg stuff. (Sorry, never had rast testing done -- only skin prick tests and reactions.)

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jb, your testing was not done by an allergist? Smiley I'd be leery of results by anyone else. Especially someone that would be testing you for oysters with no history of reaction. With no specific reason to test for oysters, it doesn't make sense. (I'm kind of a visual person -- and I see this person picking words out of a hat....lets test for this and this and this.)

I previously tested positive for a large number of foods. I was having reactions daily, and it was almost easy to believe I was allergic to everything. In reality, I have only two food allergies.

Just wanting to point out -- there are false negatives. It happens.

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Does this (non-allergist) person that does the testing also offer a cure? Or sell something for treatment? Do they have any kind of certification/licence to do medical tests?


I posted our history here before but will do the brief version here again.

I was chronically sick my whole life. Underweight as a baby. Would not nurse. Threw everything up. Was told that I had a milk allergy. Now keep in mind this was 50 years ago. I have NO clue what methods they used in those days for testing. Brother was also told he had some allergy to a cereal. It was either Quisp or Quake. One was wheat and one was corn. It was not said that he had a wheat or corn allergy, just an allergy to the one cereal. I was very young then so don't remember much of the particulars on that.

At about age 2, I was given milk to drink. My parents made me dring it. I had chronic diarrhea. I threw up frequently. Had ear infections and bronchitis. When I got older, I had chronic sinus infections. I saw countless Drs. about it. Basically they said it was allergies. Tried every allery pill on the market. Nothing helped.

Saw more Drs. as an adult. Still no answers. Only thing diagnosed aside from allergies to environmentals was high BP and that was at about age 25. I've also been told that in those days they did not have good tests for food allergies. I don't know if this is true or not. Just what Drs. have told me.

Had my daughter when I was 39. Meanwhile more things diagnosed for me in terms of medical but unrelated to alleriges. I was a vegetarian in those days and ate a lot of eggs and cheese for protein.

Daughter could not get enough milk from me. Threw up every forumula we tried. Had weird skin rashes. Cried all the time. Was eventually diagnosed with Peritonitis after having her appendix removed at not quite age 3. Turns out appendix was fine. There was just so much swelling in the area they didn't know what it was and that was the most likely thing.

In 1st grade, the teacher thought she had ADD. I took her from Dr. to Dr. Nobody thought she had it. But she was always sick. Always throwing up. Chronic and constant ear and sinus infections. Nosebleeds.

Finally my mom's Naturopath (she no longer sees him) said he could do the test for ADD. Turns out legally he could not do it. He is the one who diagnosed her IgG allergies.

We changed her diet. Suddenly she was no longer throwing up. MUCH fewer ear and sinus infections. She is 11 now. I think she has had one ear and one sinus infection since. BIG change in personality. Doing better in school.

So a couple of years went by and I got to thinking. Maybe I had food allergies too. Saw the same Dr. Sure enough I did! Changed my diet. In my case as in hers we did not feel immediately better and there was one day where we felt really awful as the toxins left our bodies. But then I felt better than I had in years.

I used to have a box of Kleenex in every room. In my purse. In my car. I had to constantly blow my runny/stuffy nose. Well, that's no longer! I did have ear infections and bronchitis last winter but it was a different kind of ear infection. Fungal. Common in diabetics, which I am. Not related to allergies. No more sinus infections. No more diarrhea except for the few times I got cross contaminated food.

I did already suspect the egg allergy based on the severe diarrhea I had from eating eggs. I did not make the connection before because this type of allergy generally does not bring an immediate reaction. The reaction can come hours to as much as three days after. This is why people can't easily pinpoint the offending food without testing.

Now we are both off of our allergy pills. I buy Kleenex if we have a cold. Other than the ones I use for my blood testing, I don't ever need them. We are not sick all the time.

So for us there is a clear and obvious relation between the IgG testing and changing our diet.

As for the oysters, they are not something I knowingly eat. But since they did show up on the test, they are something to avoid.
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Post Icon Posted: Feb 14th, 2010 at 09:36 pm

As for a cure, there is none. You just have to avoid that food.

My daughter has outgrown some of her allerigies. She is allowed to have those things twice a week and not on subsequent days. The thought is that if you eat these foods too often, the allergy can come back.

As an adult, I no longer have the dairy allergy but was warned I should not put it back in my diet as my daughter did. So I won't.

Daughter have friends with similar allergies but they do not necessarily have the same symptoms as she does. They CAN eat the allergens on occasion and are on a rotation diet. They have to keep track of every bite they eat so they don't eat any one food too often.

We try to keep things more simple. She eats dairy and eggs (if she's going to eat them) on Sunday and Tues. She eats gluten less often. Mainly just oatmeal at a restaurant. So we don't keep track of that. She has soy on Fridays, again at a restaurant. We might occasionally switch things around for a birthday party or some such thing. But keeping a food diary as some other people do, is too much of a pain for me.
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