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Post Icon Posted: Jul 27th, 2011 at 08:54 pm

I met a woman the other day who told me that out of nowhere she became allergic to so many foods and this has been happening to me as well, she ended up going to a holistic doctor who specializes in desensitizing and helping get rid of allergies. Has anyone done this before? i found a really good place where i live and i plan to go there. it says this on the website
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"Our blended approach of Immunotherapy includes; desensitization, avoidance where practical, nutritional supplementation and can help most people with allergies, young and old alike.

With the help of our D.A.N.(Defeat Autism Now) physician, many children on the Autism spectrum experience an improvement in their symptoms when their allergy symptoms are gently addressed.

Allergies usually occur from things that we are commonly exposed but sensitive to"


i was just wondering how people feel if they have went to a place like this before?
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Post Icon Posted: Jul 27th, 2011 at 09:17 pm

the way these things usually work is.....they do tests and give you a list of things you are allergic to.....things you never knew you were allergic to. and they cure you of those allergies. As for the allergies you actually have....well, those ones they can't cure. So, if you've got money to burn......donate it to a worthy cause instead.

Btw, I really hope someone else remembers and can post the link about the guy who was told he was cured of his allergies by one of these guys. So cured he died of an anaphylactic reaction. I think it was in England.
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Post Icon Posted: Jul 27th, 2011 at 09:58 pm

It was Ireland.

This sort of thing works-- if you don't actually have IgE-mediated food allergies, that is. Smiley (ie-- the "real" kind, fwiw.)

In other words, for people whose food allergies are a pet hobby or something... suuuuuure.

For people diagnosed by a reputable board-certified allergist and who have reaction history involving systemic symptoms to foods... not-so-much.
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Kinda says it all, doncha think?

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Post Icon Posted: Jul 28th, 2011 at 06:50 am

Let's put it this way, if it really worked would this board exist?

I abhor cooking (though I have to admit I am enjoying converting recipes from Cream of whatever soup to something safe for my kids). If I thought this worked, I would be first in line. I would go back to work, put my kids in day care and eat out every single day without worry that they would die or be malnourished. I would be able to eat Chinese food and the occasional fried chicken.

If it worked, it would be in the media (and not on the 24/7 yoga channel), medical drs would recommend because frankly living like this is the pits.

My friend wasted money and years curing allergies she didn't know she had and then spent years and wasted breath telling me if I just went to a person who was familiar with this therapy that my kids could be cured. I only wish it was that easy...
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Post Icon Posted: Jul 28th, 2011 at 10:24 am

Not all naturopathic doctors are quacks. However, those that claim to 'cure' IgE food allergies should not be trusted.

The naturopathic doctor we know will do desensitisation therapy for some environmental allergies, which can reduce OAS symptoms as well. This allows some people to tolerate foods they couldn't before. This isn't treatment for IgE food allergy, nor does he claim it as such. Our GP offers this treatment too, so it's nothing out of the ordinary. However, there's no way he would touch 'true' food allergies - it's just too dangerous. Even he recommends avoidance and carrying epi at all times.
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Post Icon Posted: Jul 29th, 2011 at 08:33 am

OAS is a IgE disease.
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Post Icon Posted: Jul 29th, 2011 at 10:33 am

But OAS is not an IgE allergy to the food itself, it's to pollens that cross-react, right? Correct me if I'm wrong. Our naturopath won't touch IgE food allergies, only environmental ones because desensitisation procedures for those are widely used and accepted.
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Post Icon Posted: Jul 29th, 2011 at 11:07 am

Yes, but environmental allergies are also mediated by IgE and work via the same cascade of second messengers, in a biological sense.

(Honestly, genuine homeopathic and naturopathic 'methods' for treating allergies--of any IgE-mediated sort-- are all hooey, scientifically/medically speaking.)



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Post Icon Posted: Jul 29th, 2011 at 11:20 am

Jul 29th, 2011 at 10:33 am, spacecanada wrote:
But OAS is not an IgE allergy to the food itself, it's to pollens that cross-react, right? Correct me if I'm wrong. Our naturopath won't touch IgE food allergies, only environmental ones because desensitisation procedures for those are widely used and accepted.


I don't think anyone can say its not an IgE food allergy. Its a really fuzzy line.

My DD has a birch allergy and OAS but the OAS is far worse than the birch allergy and its apples and peaches that she has reacted very strongly too with hives all over her face, swollen lips and her eyes almost swelling shut. Allergist suggested OAS but then did a RAST which was wildly positive for peach yet negative for apple which really surprised him given she reacts equally to both. So you can't just lump it all together and say well its OAS and not really an IgE food allergy. Severe OAS can be life threatening in extreme cases, alas.

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Post Icon Posted: Jul 29th, 2011 at 11:24 am

Yeah, given the mechanism at work, it's never made much sense to me to categorize cross-reactivity as "only OAS."

Because if a person possesses the right combination of factors and has the ability (propensity?) to anaphylax or react systemically....

that kind of works no matter WHAT the trigger happens to be. Smiley
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Post Icon Posted: Jul 29th, 2011 at 11:28 am

I'll quote Tim Minchin, who I think put it very nicely:

"By definition, alternative medicine either has not been proved to work, or has been proved not to work. Do you know what they call alternative medicine that has been proved to work? Medicine."

For a very good, fairly navigable guide to alt-med from a skeptical / science-based medical perspective, I highly, highly recommend http://www.chirobase.org/ and http://www.quackwatch.org/

And yeah, NAET is bunk, and if you actually have life-threatening allergies, trusting it will kill you quite dead.

Another good quack-spotting shortcut: Anyone who practices homeopathy is either a knowing fraud or dangerously ignorant.
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Post Icon Posted: Jul 30th, 2011 at 05:15 am

I will never forget that irish man who died from being 'cured' of his peanut allergy by an alternative 'medicine' .

should all be banned imo.
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Post Icon Posted: Jul 30th, 2011 at 05:24 am

holistic is not a term that just fits for alternative medicine, and i heard such practitioners that witter on about being 'holistic' as if they are totally unique in that approach.

my son is being thoughly investigated at his allergy clinic, and he is told to control his skin as that will support his fight against hay fever, and other environmental allergies.
He is being given a new nasal spray, and being reffered to a allergy sleep clinic, so that he has a better quality of sleep, and so will be able to cope with school and his exams.
He is being tested for a varity of conditions as we have no idea why he has had so many reactions, ideas such as wheat + exercise causing anaphylaxis, etc etc.

if that is not holistic, what is?

Seeing anyone conned by these deluded people at best, or money hungry snake oil people at worst, makes me so cross.


if someone tells you they are treating non IgE allergies, when they so plainly are makes them , in my book, dangerous.
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this year so far, 6 reactions and used epi pen twice.
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Post Icon Posted: Jul 30th, 2011 at 08:17 am

Rachael, love that quote.
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Post Icon Posted: Jul 30th, 2011 at 09:41 am

BH is right-- and what I keep thinking each time I see this thread title is...

well, I suppose OUR approach is a "holistic" one when you get right down to it... after all, it definitely tries to take into account the ENTIRE allergic person's health and well-being...

definitely makes global lifestyle modifications to keep anaphylaxis at bay...




I mean, if that isn't holistic (or is that 'heuristic?' Hmmm Smiley ) then I don't know what WOULD be.

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